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Daniel Saunders's avatar

Fascinating article. Some minor points:

In terms of conversion to Islam, it’s historically often been pushed by more than just intermarriage and even persecution. Given that Muslims have many privileges over non-Muslims in Islamic states, including tax exemptions and potential career advancement, it’s not surprising that many non-Muslims have willingly converted after conquest. I think a similar trend has been seen in some Medieval Christian societies where the aristocracy converted first – it becomes prestigious and rewarding to convert.

Interestingly, the early generations of Muslim leaders were in no hurry to encourage conquered peoples to convert (despite Islamic law recommending it), preferring to keep their privileges and the exclusive nature of Muslim status. This didn’t last, though.

Slavery basically does *still* exist in parts of the Arab world, notably Qatar and Yemen.

A slightly tangential point, but you talk about the claim that Islam needs a “Reformation.” This may be semantics, but I’d argue it actually needs an “Enlightenment.” The Reformation was mainly about the role and authority of the papacy, indulgences and the nature of the mass (transubstantiation and also who gets to partake of what). As you say, it led to over a century of bitter religious warfare.

The “liberalizing” of Christianity and Judaism took place as a result of coming into contact with the Enlightenment (which they often initially resisted), ultimately producing more liberal churches, Progressive Judaism and Modern Orthodox Judaism. The decline of many of these and return to more fundamentalist values makes me doubt that anything like this could happen to Islam soon (some more liberal Gulf States not withstanding).

Good point about Islamophobia.

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Elliott Steinberg's avatar

Excellent piece. I don’t think Christianity is solely “Western” even though it is mostly now. Also, I think the diverging paths of the 3 Abrahamic faiths were contingent on their philosophies, ie. both Christianity and Islam were convinced they were better than Judaism and spread their ideas to whoever would accept them - as opposed to the Jews, for whom their spirituality was and is part of their core identity as a people, not simply a religious ideology that anyone could adopt easily. Jews don’t prosthelytize, and besides, it’s harder to spread your ideology when it’s tied to being part of a particular society. I also question Islamic/Arabic claims to being decendents of Ishmael. What proof of lineage do they have? I’d like to see that, if anyone can share something. The only thing I’ve ever seen is that Israelite kings sometimes hired (pre-Islam) Arab freelance warriors for their archery skills - something Ishmael was famous for. The only reason I care about that is because of Islamic usurping of Jewish history that allows them to do things like build a mosque on the Tomb of the Patriarchs.

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